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a lot of people say the crosses represent the christian religion. the supreme court decision says this one in particular reflects the crosses of u.s. fallen soldiers you see in cemeteries where soldiers lost their lives in the name of freedom. it is not necessary about religion. thank you very much. >> this just in. a statement coming in now. associated press is reporting joe kelly. there are now two women involved in different ways in this scandal that surrounds general gave individual petraeus w -- d petraeus who left the cia on friday. jill kelly who received threatening e-mails from the computer of a former girlfriend paula broadwell with whom petraeus was having an affair allegedly. jill kelly issued a statement to the associated press acknowledging her friendship with the former cia director and asking now for privacy. as we have been reporting tonight the family says she p and petraeus had an affair but she received threatening e-mails from broadwell or from broadwell's computer. she contacted them. more than five years they have. >> to the r
a lot of people say the crosses represent the christian religion. the supreme court decision says this one in particular reflects the crosses of u.s. fallen soldiers you see in cemeteries where soldiers lost their lives in the name of freedom. it is not necessary about religion. thank you very much. >> this just in. a statement coming in now. associated press is reporting joe kelly. there are now two women involved in different ways in this scandal that surrounds general gave individual...
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a lot of people saying that the crosses represent the christian religion, but actually the supreme court's decision was saying this one in particular really reflects the crosses of u.s. fallen soldiers you see in cemeteries across europe where soldiers fought and lost their lives in the name of freedom and at the end of the day it's not necessarily about religion, but something broader stiblism, harris. >> harris: how about that coming together on veterans day, dominique di-natale, thank you very much. continuing coverage of our fox top story tonight. a statement coming in now, associated press is reporting jill kelly remember the top of the newscast, told you there are now two women involved in different ways, in this scandal that surrounds general david petraeus, who suddenly left the cia, as the head of it on friday. and jill kelly, a family friend of the petraeus family who received threatening e-mails from the computer of a former girlfriend, paula broadwell with whom petraeus was having an affair. jill kelly issued a statement to the associated press acknowledging her friendship with
a lot of people saying that the crosses represent the christian religion, but actually the supreme court's decision was saying this one in particular really reflects the crosses of u.s. fallen soldiers you see in cemeteries across europe where soldiers fought and lost their lives in the name of freedom and at the end of the day it's not necessarily about religion, but something broader stiblism, harris. >> harris: how about that coming together on veterans day, dominique di-natale, thank...
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so taht is the part -- that is the part of religion that worries me. to the government has no business telling us what to do under any circumstances. the particular threat that worries me is precisely william mentioned -- that hospitals to not have to serve. that i did not have to do anything for you, which is the conversion of public accommodation. -- the inversion of public accommodation. it comes out of a very southern inspired, segregationist-- it is no more religious to me than those schools set up -- it is not a the disbelief. -- not a religious belief. >> that conversation has been -- it was not always a part of the political conversation. about and the vice-presidential debate, how the question about reproductive choice was about their fate. martha radditz asked them about their faith. within the women's movement because of the relationship of the movement has had around abortion and contraception, specifically with regard to the catholic church, there is a catholic or transitions and feminist organization that are driving force in the women's
so taht is the part -- that is the part of religion that worries me. to the government has no business telling us what to do under any circumstances. the particular threat that worries me is precisely william mentioned -- that hospitals to not have to serve. that i did not have to do anything for you, which is the conversion of public accommodation. -- the inversion of public accommodation. it comes out of a very southern inspired, segregationist-- it is no more religious to me than those...
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and a lot of it has to do with our long history and pluralization of american religions. >> so tell us a bit about that history. why is it okay to joke about jesus but not other religious figures? >> the sacred is much more in contest here in part because of our legacy of religious freedom, but in part because we've had a long history of conflict over sacred imagery and words, often violent conflict. and in more recent years because of the rise of secularism, because of the rise of the culture of mockery in part, as well. it's just become more acceptable. >> is it because more and more of us are agnostic? i mean, why is it? is it -- do we still believe in jesus yet we joke about him? is it the other way around? >> well, it's funny if you read the comments on our cnn belief blog, you'll see that people are engaging in arguments with each other saying our argument has but humor is the way we deal with these kinds of conflicts. and as we say in the piece, in part, it's our way we don't kill each other. >> well, interestingly, i was talking to one of the employees here at cnn, kathy, and s
and a lot of it has to do with our long history and pluralization of american religions. >> so tell us a bit about that history. why is it okay to joke about jesus but not other religious figures? >> the sacred is much more in contest here in part because of our legacy of religious freedom, but in part because we've had a long history of conflict over sacred imagery and words, often violent conflict. and in more recent years because of the rise of secularism, because of the rise of...
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i don't think that that is religion specific. i think that's across the board , his relationship with israel, his relationship with the muslim world. host: this is a "financial times" editorial today. rethink on drones after petraeus exit. general petraeus has been the master mind behind using deprones to go after al qaeda in the horn of africa, etc. what has been the world reaction to these -- this type of mill tear strategy. guest: the administration has doubled down on thes you of drones. there are hundreds more than there ever were in the bush administration. there's clear security rationale for some of them. there are certainly issues. the administration's execity -- executive privilege in making these decisions. i don't think petraeus was the only person who has been the master mind. this has been -- there are many figures in the administration that feel strongly about this. i don't see the policy changing. but there is certainly a feeling in pakistan, especially, in the horn of africa and other places new york yemen, it wa
i don't think that that is religion specific. i think that's across the board , his relationship with israel, his relationship with the muslim world. host: this is a "financial times" editorial today. rethink on drones after petraeus exit. general petraeus has been the master mind behind using deprones to go after al qaeda in the horn of africa, etc. what has been the world reaction to these -- this type of mill tear strategy. guest: the administration has doubled down on thes you of...
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so much good comes out of religion and so much that can. we all know that. i think it's amazing how much we can agree. i felt like i did not want to put out their something that people could disagree on. no politics. it was never to be about that. it was to be about what we can all agree on. i think there are some things that are unarguable. whether it's picking your english teacher or your mother, those of the safe bets, but picking people like rosa parks, people who we know and see with that historical record, things that i found universally, every politics, religion, we can all agree, and that's why wanted to be about. >> host: that is the last word. here again is the cover up brad melchers most recent nonfiction. his next thriller comes out in january. thank you for joining us here in miami. >> guest: great to see you. >> host: well, we have one more panel we want to show you, and they're just being introduced a pinch happen all where we have been carrying all the lives of the panel's. coming up, this is a panel on the christopher hitchens post-mortem bo
so much good comes out of religion and so much that can. we all know that. i think it's amazing how much we can agree. i felt like i did not want to put out their something that people could disagree on. no politics. it was never to be about that. it was to be about what we can all agree on. i think there are some things that are unarguable. whether it's picking your english teacher or your mother, those of the safe bets, but picking people like rosa parks, people who we know and see with that...
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i am muslim, very strict about things, and i think that people have a right to not practice religion here. they have a right to do things the way they feel comfortable doing it, which is called secular or religious thinking. they have the right in this country not to follow religious law. for him to feel that he needed to resign over a scandal, i do not think that is proper when he does not have to follow religious thinking about sex in this country. host: thank you for the call this morning. here is the editorial from "usa today." host: in, want to get your thoughts this morning on the democratic line. -- diane, want to get your thoughts this morning on the democratic line. caller: i went to school with one of my friends in coronado, california. wondering if you are related to anyone from connecticut. host: not sure. what are your thoughts about the general's resignation? caller: let me tell you something, we came here when i was a, we came to a military base. my stepfather served in the first marines. also we went to camp pendleton and he was the commander of that unit for many yea
i am muslim, very strict about things, and i think that people have a right to not practice religion here. they have a right to do things the way they feel comfortable doing it, which is called secular or religious thinking. they have the right in this country not to follow religious law. for him to feel that he needed to resign over a scandal, i do not think that is proper when he does not have to follow religious thinking about sex in this country. host: thank you for the call this morning....
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over a fighter squadron where a previous commander we had i think three or four folks of the mormon religion in the squadron. they didn't drink. they would come to happy hour on fridays at the bar when we used to do that kind of thing. and they'd participate and drink a soda and didn't drink. and he held this against them for some reason. he got fired and i became the leader. not for that but for some other stupid stuff. let me tell you how easy it was to take over that squadron. all you have to do is embrace everybody. and if you don't in a squadron, if you exclude three people not only do they not people part of the team but you're not going to get the job done. our military is not going to get any bigger by the way through most of your careers. we need everybody in a major way. so i think it's also good by the way that you're in the military or going to join the military for those at the service academies and v.m.i. and probably some others in this room. you're joining an organization that has no tolerance for discrimination. and it's been going on for a long time. it's taken a long time
over a fighter squadron where a previous commander we had i think three or four folks of the mormon religion in the squadron. they didn't drink. they would come to happy hour on fridays at the bar when we used to do that kind of thing. and they'd participate and drink a soda and didn't drink. and he held this against them for some reason. he got fired and i became the leader. not for that but for some other stupid stuff. let me tell you how easy it was to take over that squadron. all you have...
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is there though a way to talk about this in a way that gives some respect to religion because i know that you're a very religious person and do you feel that god has a plan for you. >> yes. the gentleman who ran against me was told by god -- and people would say well, you know, you're theologically trained, you can probably slice him to pieces. my response was any time anybody says they were told by god to do something, i leave it alone. you know. i would say that sometimes the voice of god we hear is our own voice in disguise. and so i'm -- but at the same time i'm careful about saying well, why would god talk to you? you only have a bachelor's degree or you only -- and it was in geography. but i think we leave that alone. now i don't think that we have to manufacture a god discussion and i became really angry with many democrats saying we've got to start talking about god. my response is god will not be pimped. are we going to talk about him so we can impress some people who believe that -- say the word "god." called the name "god." i can't do that. i think in the course of who we
is there though a way to talk about this in a way that gives some respect to religion because i know that you're a very religious person and do you feel that god has a plan for you. >> yes. the gentleman who ran against me was told by god -- and people would say well, you know, you're theologically trained, you can probably slice him to pieces. my response was any time anybody says they were told by god to do something, i leave it alone. you know. i would say that sometimes the voice of...